On this week’s episode, former NRL great Willie Mason sits down with Greg Young and he tells us what he really thinks. This is the podcast that the rugby league fans have been hanging out for!
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This week's podcast Willie Mason I've got no idea what we're gonna talk about mate I've spent a couple of colorful career so I'm looking forward to uh several questions you got May so just go back let's rip in welcome to the bodyscience podcast bringing you everything you need want and should know about health fitness nutrition and training as always the information contained in this podcast is where the information purposes only and is not designed to diagnose will be restricted to treat prevent or manage any injury disease or other health-related condition today's podcast is brought to you by whey ultra a 100 percent way advanced performance protein designed for results the ultimate in post workout nutrition way ultra boasts a four times whey protein matrix of peptides isolates and concentrate is loaded with BCA's and EAS and is rapidly absorbed for maximum recovery and lean muscle growth it's enhanced with prebiotics probiotics and five digestive enzymes plus is free from soy gluten added sugar artificial flavours and sweeteners and every batch is banned substance messed up everything your body needs for recovery nothing you don't welcome to body science the house of fit happy and healthy this week Willie Mason and make quite a resume when I've got it in front of me here you've been a busy boy yeah I think when I look back on it now being retired for about you know midway through 2016 I sort of call it called it quits there I'd know if I was in the South of France yeah I mean like you sort of you don't realize because it goes so quick and then you know now you can sort of you do a couple of podcasts a couple of like things where they read out your resume and stuff like that you know it's something that I can be proud of it's um it's been a great career has been a great ride and um you know it's it's over now it's on to the next the next adventure main speaking of Prayer boards and I know obviously wearing this train jersey in rugby league in a real world is the topic what'd it feel like pulling that Tonga Jersey on yeah it's a different there's a different emotion I think it's because my mum is Tongan and at that stage I was 18 19 I just hit 1st grade and I knew how much it meant to my mum and mum's family you know being from the islands it's very small island very small in Vivaro in in Tonga over thereit's a beautiful place and I knew how much you meant to mum mum was really emotional she's probably prouder of me when I playfor tonk of it then I did for Australia because it meant so much to to mom so that was in 2000 see how my biggerdreams were were playing it was playing for Australia yeah you know obviously every kid dreams of that and obviouslygot to do that a couple of years later but I wanted to get that Tong and Jersey first because I knew my plan was I wasvery ambitious I want to play for a show for a very long time which I did so yeah but it was a different feeling you knowlike you so really got in touch with them you know your tradition and your whole family is very it was very emotional it's a different emotion thanplay for show so obviously like my background my mom's half southern half Tana but dad was a show so dad passedaway when I was 17 just before I come down to the Bulldogs so it was like dadalways want me to play for Australia yeah and mum was like she's she really didn't know that much about rugby leagueshe just sort of supported me and did whatever and then but playing for Tong when I when I told her what I was going to play for Tommy she just bawled hereyes there so yeah it's unreal it was it was very surreal for mum and what didthe what did the the code say about you playing for Tonga before he played for Australia were you getting the big don'tdo it um I think at that stage it was a 2000 World Cup and that says I just hitthe scene and tamanna' Tahu hit the scene as well so Gary Freeman I remember the Weezer was coaching the the Kiwishere and I got along with him really well and he knew that we'll up-and-coming players if you know futurerepresentative players he come no so I only played 12 first great games tomorrow had a full season I think Ithink he played a little bit 99 then 2000 so we'll both up and coming but we had New Zealand backgrounds so he's halfmerry and I was born in New Zealand yeah and he wanted to get us right then because if we hadn't said yes to NewZealand right then we would have been playing for New Zealand our whole career yeah so we're at the crossroads I was like oh we get an opportunity to playfor New Zealand at at 19 years old or do you sort of put you know you know youback yourself and try and and and go well I'm gonna play for a show so what I was confident that I was gonna play fora show at that age and it was hard to say no but I I don't[ __ ] I don't see myself as a Kiwi I mean a lot of there was a lot of that [ __ ] like when when I played against New Zealand because they thought thatjust because I was born there they had they have the right now I should have the right to play for New Zealand but myheart was in there my dad was an Aussie he wanted me to play for shale and and my mum's halfsome more and half Tongan so I was just born there I was proud to be born in New Zealand but my blood or anything this isnot New Zealand otherwise I'd play for New Zealand yeah it's simple and people couldn't understand that was supposebecause you know they thought I was another good player getting let let let go like it was like and they pick andchoose what they want because half the players they couldn't give a [ __ ] about yeah yeah so we're besties New Zealand from I was born in Aucklandcome back I come over like dad flew us over back over when I was 5 so grew up in in New Castle a little few years downin Wollongong a couple of years and there most of it in Toronto Toronto west up in Newcastle very sort of humblehumble beginnings you know and rugby league was just the main thing in Newcastle and dad loved rugby leaguelike I mean he was crazy about it yeah I mean as I mean I look back on it nowit's been hard like what she liked me playing having the career that I had he would have been very proud but I'm likeit sucked playing your whole career without him but like cause he loved free that much and mum really didn't knowthat much about 40 so you know I never really talked about that much it's probably the main thing that really wasdriving me like through through all these years and adversity and all the [ __ ] that sort of come my way and itwasn't really I've never really talked that much notice of it because I went through life changing [ __ ] like when Iwas 17 like I don't think many 17 year-olds bury their dad you know that's a Pickens you know I mean so like whenit comes to [ __ ] like where papers or people would say stuff about me I waslike I couldn't even [ __ ] you know what I mean I don't care like at that stage I don't what why would I even care thatwhat you say in a paper about me like when I've been through other [ __ ] like actually life's life stuff so I alwayscompare that I still I still do that now I said most people that know me know that you know I'm I've been through alot of things in my life red-belly was fun for me I was good at it it was a career like it wasn't I neverlooked at it like a job as soon as I did find it as a job I retired I was youknow beta 2 so I was thinking clearly but I know I was I mean it's 2016 I hada little bit lower leg injury I couldn't cop the French coach and I could have rehabbed it and got back and I also hada week off and he's I don't know I be thir and that's the perfect thing plane in Perpignan like it's an hour drivedown to Barcelona and then fly to next minute you're not be that in half an hour they had a couple of nights Nico[ __ ] I'm done I just said I'll just tell what me says I was there I'm done and she knows like if I say stuff like Idon't I don't muck around with things like that and regardless of I was on in RB file or files back in Newcastle whereI was back in Sydney as soon as I saw they say those words I'm done and I saidit and I meant it and I'll just didn't go back to train and what was the sport like over there I mean it's not one of the sports andmedia run round and for everything you do it's a little bit different they really love their they love their OBLeague they're okay Southie Frances um was really dominated by by rugby leagueand I think what happened the little story was I mean before World War two itwas most popular game in France other than soccer so the whole South of France eats the packed stadiums out it was the number one game there was like Ithink over there I think you when blue or something was a hundred thousand French friends the Frenchies versusEngland they've got photos of how popular the game was after there's a change in government after the the worldwar after world war ii and he was a massive Union fan put dragged all the money out of League put it into Unionand that's why Union so big now got you so that's I mean but before that the French cheese without they won a WorldCup like you wouldn't think so but Monday you have a look at their union how good they are you in there atop-five nation and it might be league they just seem to take that over there you'd play Union you get paid a shitloadmore so a lot more pop minutes the second biggest game over there its massive but it's all because of thegovernment happened you know 60 70 years ago yeah no ice so mate you've come back what are you up tothese days I was pretty smart with them a couple of couple of things in realestate and you know made a little bit of money it may come I come into the game with no money so I just didn't want toleave the game with no money yeah and I mean like I just come out in the in the black I've got some money I can sort ofsit back and and and relax and sort of pick and choose what I want to do I try and try and help some young kids I do alittle bit of work with New South Wales like I'm ambassador for those guys with the six teens and a teens trying to getyou know like more mentoring role where there's young kids you know like I youknow you can tell them teach them how to play football they're all big and strong and everything I'll have but like it's off the field dramas that I'm I'mworried about and more concerned and I know I can help like I said I wish I hadwhen I was 16 17 I wish I had a person like me come and tell me what's going to happen but we were there IRRI where itonly just turned pro yeah so these guys are only profile four or five years and they'll retire and at that stage andthen I was coming through so we've we've gone through this whole era where it's been with nothing but prose and with allthe social media and everything like that so we uh you know I went through the era where you had to answer a phoneand you didn't know who was on the other end yeah you know compared to beep you know to facetiming now and you don't youknow everything's all on your phone and so that whole ear from 99 to 2000 all the way up to 2008 this is pre you knowsocial media and then I went through the social media so 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 was all social media so I was like halfand half I was like damn so I can understand from from every point of viewyou know so and I know and I'm passionate about like helping these young kids because they are the futureof the game but you know you can easily make one bad decision that you [ __ ] your whole career up yeah and you know it'sso important it's like you gotta surround yourself with the right people you gotta you know invest well these kids are earning some really good moneynow but you know it's a trust thing there with that with a lot of these pollinators especially the Polynesianplayers is 45 percent on the rosters that a Polynesian you so like I'm half Polynesian a lot of theguys wanna help you know and we understand the whole culture and everything like that so I know I can puta lot of good into the game how did your manager drive you down that path or we go for Thank You yourself I just did itmyself and Wayne Bennett helps a fair bit because he knows what what sort of person I am and how like I'm veryinfluential within that within within their own Billy community regardless you know you can you know the perception ofmyself probably when I was playing wasn't like that you know but I was always a leader and and everything like that you know all mysides and and I've always thought of like helping other people you knowalways want to help other people get better you know like my teammates and now now I'm in a perfect position nowI'm retired I actually I'm passionate about and I don't want to I don't want any money from it own my own money otherin other avenues but I want to go and help these other kids and I do it on my own watch yeah nice nice stuff so let'sjump back to that that kenri Banks down team that was sort of the pinnacle of where yeah I think the hair came herethen was that when the hair came out yeah 2002 that was a it's weird how many people remember that amb so yeah I thinkit was one thing Craig pullin mana was calling me a Lego head I think it wasabout 99 2000 years look at you [ __ ] Lego head and I'm like I didn't really know this is before the barbers couldshape your head and give you mad fades and clip you up and everything like that like now I'm looking alright like the hairs alright doesn't look like a[ __ ] Lego but then he goes forever you just don't cut your hair so this was like 2000 2001 so I didn't cut it thewhole preseason and then it just grew like that yeah and then I didn't cut it till the end of 2003 it was crazy itlook made me look about six foot eight because I was a more about six foot five anyway and then that was you know I wasa good three or four inches on the top of my head so and then I look at it I look back on it now such a crazy littleas crazy a crazy couple of years here what we got done with the salary capat the Bulldogs there there was a couple little scandals here and there but like everybody still remembers a hair and Iwas only had it for like 18 months I was at all 18 months inside out 2002 2003 short from 2004 onwards so they juststop I remember you add your ham like [ __ ] it was like 16 years ago but they still remember I'll get I'll get stoppedby a random I get I've got a really weird demographic of fans you know they could be like a 60 year old Asian poorold Asian person down in Maroubra Junction if I'm there going getting a coffee oh you you knowyou know you're the football they still remember all your hair yeah or they could be an old the old great lady youknow and I'll put your Polynesians why anything it's just weed that I but the age group it could be like you know aten year old boy you know like a 75 year old Asian man down in Murray Junction ordown in coochie you have no idea but they just got Mason hey I was like ohyeah yeah yeah what are you doing now hey I'm retired so but it's Weiner they always they always come back to the tothe hair all the time I was on fire realize that crazy well I'll do again what you great yeah a bag I was like noit was such a torture like when I look at I was a so [ __ ] hard to handle washing his [ __ ] and it was just likethick and hot and it was just only I just I only kept up with it because Ididn't know any different and once I cut it I was I'll never grow on this back bit like crazy but yeah well Pecos beerscrazy so might you play for a few clubs he can't breathe roosters NorthQueensland nights manly which ones which Clark let's get a bit into culture andstuff and talk about some internals like which part what part of clubs did you love like I think you bought aleadership style when you went in so you know people need to stand aside for thatI had to pay my own way at the Bulldogs and I sort of loved that whole culturethat we built there and I was big part of that we had a really good side there we had a really good some really goodbattles with the Roosters and the Warriors and we really had a really good side we probably should have won acouple more premierships you know a couple of injuries here and there and and playing against some really good sides as well but yeah the Bulldogs wesort of built that culture you know and I was and I was a big part of that coming through the grades and you built the NRL off a bit during that periodthey stopped our teams yeah we were yeah we're all powerhouse team it was um you know the the roosters are up there andthe you know the Broncos were there but yeah we had you know Sonny bills and you know John for Thurston's mark O'Meara'sBobcat you know Angie Ryan Roy a sitar see myself Reni Matua Luke Patton youknow always like places gonna go gonna go down is like some of the greats you know so Brent sure when it's time BraithAnasta nigel vandals to argue be one of the best centers in the world for like about three or four years willing slowBen Harris Willie Tonga yeah yeah it has a norm as you met you tie like that's just off the top of my head and you knowthese these guys are fantastic players and we had a really good squad there we end up winning a Grand Final which isgreat a couple more would have been good but I really care about like I'd rather just win one and then just call it callit pensee it Ivan lost one much as well that's about it but like going into other teamsI don't regret it as I do you lose like leaving the Bulldogs like I left on principles that's just a whole differentstory we can see if you [ __ ] three hours but I left on my principles I went to the Roosters but I think I wonder other clubs and being once you leave aclub you also play for 20 of them yeah because you're the play for one club and you'd be a one club man and you justsort of part of the furniture there and I was beginning to be that at the Bulldogs and I'm sort of getting a little bit stale as well and you knowgoing to another club you got a you know regardless of your resume you need to earn other people's respect you know soI've always done that and it makes you play a lot better because you're not coming in there that they know what sortthey know what you can bring on the field but you need to buy into their culture what they're built yeah and that's what sort of made me play reallywell at other clubs so I never really regressed and anywhere I went I sort of wanted to get better I bought what Ibought what I bought like on the field and off the field and like I just boughtinto there bought into their culture you know which was if you didn't regardlessof who you are they'll just piss you off you know so the Roosters was great we had a good couple of years there andthen I moved on the Cowboys and then that but at that stage I was 30 and themin my head I was like [ __ ] I'll being playing for ages you know regardless yeahI've got graded in like 98 you know in 97 I've had reserved grade like I wasthinking that's a 13 years regardless of playing firstly I think it was my tenth or eleventh year in first grade you knowduring that part I was playing in the origins and train sites for eight years of that eight or nine years in on therap scene and next minute I'm 30 I mean you're in North Quincy I don't think I'm over it I'm like completely done likephysic not not physically mentally yeah and then I got a deal overseas thatwhole kr and the dirt that ona was just a real dick I mean you can have thesequota players you'll add six and he tried to cheat he tried to get me on a quota and then a person who was injuredhe tried to get me in there at that time and so we could just sort of have a more player and then at the end of it I saidlook I come here to play for whole kr and he [ __ ] it around and then I got a big massive offer from Union to live inthe South of France and just do nothing and get paid a shitload of money so I took that and that's probably the onlyreason why I played the back end and at a high level because late eighteen months to do nothing I sit on the Frenchon the Med do nothing get paid a shitload of money trained to do liketraining was just compared to what I'm used to doing yeah and then go on a tool on which all they care about isperformance great setup but the lifestyles I'm real-world like 45 kilometers from st. Tropez nice can andwe just had a loose side and it was a bunch of sort of like you know rebels ofrenegades or rogues that all played all around the world in Union but likethey've all ended up at too long and like you're talking like guys that are greats in South Africa and France andEngland and all over the place then they've got random Ozzy me who've played rugby leagueyou'd never played rugby union so before that I got picked in the Barbarian site and this is like the bar Baz is like isa it's prestigious to make so my first game of Union ever first game ever everstarting 12 against England against England in Twitter at Twickenham infront of 85,000 my second game was against Wales 80,000at Millennium Stadium so that's my first two games of our Union and I love thebarbarians how they used to play but one of the guys said he goes once she gets a French rugby all they do is kick kickkick kick kick he goes you get noble and they put me in the centres and everything I thought was gonna be the next sunny bill because we playedtogether almost similar bills I'm like [ __ ] I'm not sunny built you know the mean like and he had about at least hehad two or three years at yeah and I just I just got sick of it and like it's it's a game that I respect I respect thegame but like I mean if I was steady income I should have went when I was like 24 25 but I just to get out of getout of hole and you know like who wouldn't do it and who gets the chance as a 30 year old to sit on the FrenchMediterranean do-nothing train a little bit pay packets solid yeah you know andthen sort of recalibrate and then get another chance to go back at the NRL that's what happened a lot of us don'tget the chance to go from team to team and look at different no group some what's it like for you to rock up torugby from after rugby league and a man who's stood by rugby league in a reallypassionate strong way to and then walking a guy can't gonna [ __ ] play Union why are we doing yeah it was likeum I like that you like that I like it you know like a lot of a lot of peoplewould fear that even changing clubs a lot of people have that fear I've gone oh no I got it I've got to get earneveryone's respect again I got I actually embrace that and it brings the best out of me but Donna Union was atotally different kettle of fish at 30 years old as well you know you don't know the nuances of the game of the insand outs where you know I'm playing with proper prosy or Jonny Wilkinson was playing that Goodell was there like someof the Great's and you know you had to think on your feet because the coaches weren't the best coaches friendFrenchie's and I didn't speak English she had to learn French okay France French Netherland francs and it was itwas an eye-opener I tried to learn the game and then by that time I was sort of getting bored of it and then the coach was sort of playing we had so manysuperstars in the entertaining he'd give [ __ ] about me who might know one okay you know what I mean like I'vedone nothing in in in you in the Union game so I had a few phone calls fromWayne Bennett Craig Bellamy's or they knew that I was wasn't happy and they'llright but I said I wasn't really gonna leave I signed a three-year deal there and all this kind of stuff so I just left a lot of money on the table I'dnever played for money and then come back to Newcastle in 2012 I just went you know it give us a littlebit of cash and I'll walk away otherwise I could have stayed there and got paid a shitload but I'm not about money and I'mnot about ruining clubs or anything like okay I left a lot of money on that table yeah I just left on the principle if youif you're gonna be a dick you know I can be a bad bad bad management and try andmake me look like an idiot I'm just gonna leave me I don't owe you anything I've always figured that out inin clubs there's no loyalty yeah you know and I figured that out real young and look look at the game now you canjust walk away when you want what do you think about that you reckon a contract and 40 means anything anymoreit's it's a double-edged sword in them mmm it depends how good you're gone yeahand if you go and [ __ ] though the quick first ones they get really up but if you're killing it you want a release ohgod forbid you'd be [ __ ] the worst person in the world I know I know there's rumblings around like a TysonFrisell and a few other players they want out of their contract but TysonBrazil's of current New South Wales back row and a shame back row he's probably one the best Packer I was in the in thegame will they let him you know but if he if he has a couple of off seasons and he plays [ __ ] then they want to releasehim it's fair on the club isn't it you know it's a double-edged sword there so I think players have every right just towalk whenever they want like I just don't think there's because the game has got it showed a time after time aftertime there is no loyalty in the game so if you're not happy to Club see you later I'm gone so how do we work that with thefans do you reckon like the fans just need to understand yeah that it is a business it's a business it's a straight businessand they know that they know like it's you know they'll be happy to get like just say like a kale and polo you knowin his prime if he just left new car but Newcastle be filthy like you just can't please everyone yeah and and thesimple fact is is like players are gonna leave at the wrong time they're gonna have but fans don't understand you justyou don't leave when you're happy something's going on yeah yeah hey you don't like the coach you don't like the culture something's going on you want awinning team look at Tedesco perfect example he loved the Tigers TigersJunior everything like wanted a win yeah guys the Roosters it becomes probablythe best player in the world at the moment won a couple origins want a Premiership and you know that's that'sthe way it is like if he sees and the Tigers weren't okay well I can't really do anything about it he's put everythinginto the times he had a couple of little NIMH reconstructions two or three and though they had doubts on him so he'sproved everyone wrong so everyone has a different everyone's a different sort of reason why they want to leave you don'tjust get up and leave when you're happy you know there's something going on and fans need to understand that but they never do understand and you can't pleaseall the fans I mean you can only just go to the club and please those guys youcan't you I mean like that I think the Bulldogs only just forgive me you know actually over 10 years ago andthey don't really real realize the reasons until I explained it to a minute oh [ __ ] over left - yeah you know so youcan't you can't please everyone hang out to dry and this like that's just the way it is so fans understand in a coupleyears at that time they don't and I don't want to understand but I think theday now where you have power over what you say back then the media controls ournarrative and the club controls our narrative so you just get stuck out there like an idiot and whatever's inthe paper that's it it's the gospel you know but now through social media it's ait's it's a wonderful thing to have and it's a [ __ ] thing to have you know because you can post whatever you wanton your social media Instagram Twitter whatever you want and have your exact words out there you can do a video youcan do whatever you want so you can control the narrative this is that's the difference in today's game so a lot offans do understand if a player does leave because fat because the player if he's got any balls about him or each orif he left on a good reason he tell you yeah so that's the desk that's the beauty of social media and how much power do theplays have at a club you know like we're not run a business here we get looked atwe get things people talk about us do you get a lot of feedback with the coach you've mentioned coach a couple of timeswith deke and a couple things yeah I think so I think yeah I think dependswhat Coach have yeah you know a lot of like Wayne Bennett so he's very transparent he's whatever he says hemeans you know Craig Bellamy's like that as well the guys that are on top they're the best coach is Rickey short I mean hesaid some really some down easy Cronulla and everything like but he's like one of the premier coaches because these guysare men mm-hmm and they treat you like a man they don't treat you like a kid yeah that's the big difference on the guysthat are the premier coaches and the guys that are sort of coming up but you know I would look at golf Brennan he's a schoolteacher you know and and there's arespect thing people respect Craig Bellamy Wayne been a tricky Stewart they're my three guys that I'm just likethey're just on top so these young kids they look at at what you've done in your career you know like I'm Ricky still oneof the greatest halfback so even like Craig Billy like Craig Bellamy he's probably one of those guys an anomaly where he's such a great coach you don'tgive a [ __ ] if he's ever played the own or not yeah Sam his way in Bannack he's been around the game so long Ricky short you canlook at his resume and everything like you get yo on a play for that blow you know but some of these young coaches youknow the see bolds you know paul green you know these guys they sort of likeyou know Maj you know the guy from Parramatta Brad Arthur Brad Arthur sothese guys are still learning the game you know they're still good of this it's all about man management you know likeall these kids are so much different they're not robots they get they play like robots but off the field everyone'sgot different characters everyone's got different egos it's all about managing egos and characters and getting the bestout of these guys on that one day for 80 minutes you can do whatever the [ __ ] youwant all week as long as you can collectively get 17 players on the same page you know and playing their bestfootball that's why I look at some clubs and I'm like I look at the bulldozer look at the titans look at the bottomfour clubs it looks like they don't really give a [ __ ] what do you think about the those bottom for playing you mentionedthe word robots a second ago well I look I look at some games than they look unbelievable because they startedplaying football I look at the Bulldogs they they match the roosters for 60 minutes and then a couple you know theroosters are always going to be that team you know because it got simply better plays the Titans I look at the Titans I go well who's coaching theseguys you know like you got the guys like Tyrone Roberts who's a natural football ash Taylor natural footballer bothcenters peachy good forward pact it's a top aid team on paper yep you know and Ithink that's it's due for a whole different change like I just get the broom and sweep it out obviously thelast five years haven't been working and a lot of clubs would do that you know let's see you include a CEO footballmanagers recruitment everything something's gone wrong at the Titans something's gone wrong with the Bulldogs you know like you know you can go that'sfor every bottom four team you know I can just go just something's wrong you know the Titans need a massive big veryshuffle because I look at the Titans and I go they're a better team than the Bulldogs or Bulldogs they're strugglinglike roster wise salary cap wise everything like that they should be where they're at around the bottom forbecause other clubs are simply just better than him their rosters are better the coaches are better and it just seemsto like when they play their best you know you look at the vs. so perfectly I always go by this I look at the Roosters1 to 17 if each of them plays their best game and each one is 17 on the Bulldogs each of them plays their best game whowins the Roosters yeah and that's what that's why I look at every team like most of them are pretty even when you gofrom when you look at his house like a top four team you know you look at his house and you look at her roosters likeif they all play their best like that's it's gonna be a you know two-point game you know and even Melbourne that's goingto be tight even mainly at this moment you know it's going to be really tight but then you look at the top like aMelbourne and then you might Melbourne playing the Titans you know Melvin should win yeah you know but then likeTitans against just say like Parramatta I would say on paper they should be beating them but they don't they getsmashed you know the Knights that even Knights on paper should be beaten a lot of it like there should be a top fall team theKnights yet they're getting dusted by the Bulldogs you know a couple of weeks ago and um you know they got beat by theWest Tigers so I'm people it's just like it sweet so then that's when you point the finger at a coach or their cultureor what's what's happening you know you can only all the players aren't motivated how the [ __ ] can't youmotivated this time of the year you know like you need to be motivated you got six games to set yourself up for the topeight and you come out and play like that you know then you look at guys i des has lo look how he's got manly thatroster isn't better than even just say the Titans the Titans should go mad much they should match manly but manly lookslike their coach unbelieving they've want to play for that coach is that a big thing playing for the coach funny dissent and you can't go outside reallylike just say the Bulldogs they've got Dean pay back Dean pays a really good coach anybody needs some really heinousand good players man you know like [ __ ] just suck what do you do with a with a you know like with a bunch of you knowguys that all have a crack I mean I feel sorry for Josh Jackson I looked at in the other I went to the reunion otherday he looks about [ __ ] 50 you know like he just no he's only 28 years old yeah you know he just died it'sepitomizes what a bulldog is like somewhat you know ha Palardy Sabri Smithand all these players I got a really good core of players you know like leashes probably at the end they've gota couple Jack Cole go she's got average players look like Josh Jackson is a he'sa star in that team but he's a superstar player your key reforms on superstar money 1 points 2 million dollars can'tget on the field you know it's such a shame but like even Kieran Foran at his best he's not gonna change that team andthat's probably a factor of des has Lee coming and then [ __ ] up the cab like he rule in that Cup because he got itfor two grand finals got two grand finals then they go well he misses the in seven years he missed the eight onceand they sack him just free it's a tough gig I mean like an you get Dean pay inthere and like you they think this is my put back to my point of like and back to your point is it important to have acoach that's played at the club yeah it is if you have the right people as well aidez was at out he was from manly yeahthey shouldn't they in hindsight should never ever regard him put like a Kevin Moore or a Jim Dimmickor someone that was around the area there that was around as assistant coach after folksy I should have put themthere they ever talk to you ex players about who should be coach who should run the club who should do no it seems likethey've forgotten about a lot of players and I think our era at the Bulldogs evenjust like you know just playing as in here I think it was a great year of the 2000 and you know the Bulldogs justseemed not to really care or have many people around the club I think that just bought Brent showing in as a kickingcoach Brent Shawn was arguably one of the best place of five or six years you know he was behind Brent he was behindthe eight from all the way and do Andruw Jones you know Devine like feels playing now shifty if I can have the New SouthWales Jersey easily they've been clear wooden ties boots up yeah but you know they finally bring him in like you gotguys like myself and Andrew Ryan and forwards around around you know likearound the air around them around football but we haven't got a phone call and I unexpected phone call but if youwant anyone to teach you how to play in the middle or on an edge oh you gotBobcat myself you got Marko me Leroy assets house you got guys floating around the game that would happily go tothe club and help Reni Mattila all these guys make you tight you know I will eat song and we're all around Sydney andlike no but nobody and I don't really give a [ __ ] really to be to be honest but I'm just saying that that's they'vegot people around that are willing to help like if I got a phone call a lodgeyou want to come and uh you know coach the forwards yeah if Wayne what if Waynerang me and said you don't do some middle work with with them with some of the sales class yeah do it so any clubbut if you'd expect it from a club that you've probably played arguing your best football yeah and you're like you knowone of the great players you know but you know they don't do it it's a newthing play that like you'd think for the sport for the for the fans getting getting you guys back trying on that soit's not you want to talk about it yeah I'm talking about 40 again and it's weed because a lot of fans are like oh whydon't you get you know myself but I think you ought doesn't want to yeah why are you going back there andhelping these folds out I'm like because I just can't rock up it's not club football you know it's it's the NRL it'slike if I if Dean pay he calls you guys you wanna come to do some middleweight obviously it's too late now but like a lot of the works done in the preseasonexactly you come in the presupposed I was at the club helping the under-19s I was at the club but like you know Ipresented that the jerseys to the Under 19's you know I'm at the club the club knew that I was there and I was therewith Rennie matul just off it just off because I wanted to do it Gary Carden was was the trainer he was my trainerwhen I was there and he asked me to come down and David Penton was in I played under David Tanner when I was at Manlyand he's a really good bloke so I said I'll come down help the Middle's so the club knows I was around the I was around like I was one could be well I would bewilling to go and help some of the Middle's there that I mean a lot of their forwards need some help becausethey're not really you know bending the light stuff that I was good at I could easily easily pass my knowledgeon to these kids so I'm not sure it's um it's a bit weird I mean like I'm I'm myage group really at the moment now try and get in there's six teens and 18 so obviously Freddie has rang me up anddoing a little bit of work with with the New South Wales young kids 16 and 18 mark Amelia's doing it well doing it aswell both suppose Scott Luke Lewis we all come in there and help these kids so that's where I thought Ithink that that's my niche that age because they're like sponges and they [ __ ] listen yeah you know and they'rebig strong you know they're built for football these kids love 40 and you know if you can just teach them a few littlethings in there and help me with their game they can go to that next level like three years ago you got blokes thenapply an Origin now like they come through through that it happens real quick I remember when I was 18 next tome three years they don't playing for a shot yeah it happens quick and that's what sort of knowledge I can give you to give to these kids so it happens quickjust just be ready you might get a call next week and play first grade when you're 80 90 these kids are like sixfoot six hundred twenty kilos can move they're physically ready they're physically ready they're bigger thanwhat we were when were more younger you know will people oh we're a big big youknow like in stock there are huge their legs they're ready they hips everything likethat this skill level they're already ready and that's just it's like a production line next next next was veryrobotic watching them train and everything that's very very robot it you're gonna have something different I was very surprised that the lack ofskill level that they have okay you know like where the middle blokes is like a simple drill like ten meters away it'sjust possible half them couldn't pass left right it's all right just [ __ ] shocked and I said Lisa these are thethe middle players yeah half the game is you know when you see Jake's your boy [ __ ] go online he passes out the backit's passed into a half-pay who's flying out the back and you got to hit him on the chest these are stationary passes you can'tpass ten meters and over rent and spiral the other way yeah I said I pulled the I pulled the session up and said boys youneed to have this in your arsenal you know like unit if a coach is looking at you go yeah he's a really good runner hecan tackle he can do this but he can't pass like it's a product of getting coached at a young age being bigger andstronger than everyone and just go run the ball and you can't be stopped next minute you go to play against [ __ ] Jake - boy [ __ ] or Jason tellMalolo he'll stop you yeah the other means Sam Burgess will stop you you need to be able to pass the ball and just putthis in you put it in here can you kit bag you know because the coach will look at you and go you can't [ __ ] pass buthe's big and strong everyone's big and strong you know the game now these kids are massive so you need to I think I wasreally shocked at it and then I said just go back and learn and just non-stop hustle just I was just really surprisedat that but like physically when you're telling me to run the ball I was just like beasts running the ball man I'mhitting pads and he actually hidden hidden people tackle technique well above everyone else like they are thecream of the crop and like I was just really stunned at that like a 10 meter pass it was a so that's what I won andwhat are they doing mainly for these kids make these kids to come from what you said you're nearly superior and they eat 40 yeah I think I think God's undertheir belt yeah I think personally it needs to be the game needs to put a lota lot more research into these kids I think they're getting earmarked you know 13 14 15 16 years old67 years 16 17 years old they should be at getting like a psych evaluation yep Ireckon the coaches should be going to their house head coach is going to their house so they feel like they wanted like andactually follow these kid through through his schooling and everything regarding you're not coming at yourcoming out of school coming straight in the first right but you are going to get in the full-time squad so you're part of the NRL so they need to come back recruitthese kids give them a psych evaluation because everybody's from a lower socioeconomic sort of place blue-collarworkers you know could you could be like a product of domestic violence alcoholdrug abuse everything like that and then you expect to drag this kid from wherever he's from throw him in the[ __ ] Sydney and do your best do your research on the kid like know that knowthe kid know what his floors are going to be know everything so this kid could be a ten million dollar you knowinvestment yeah you've got to look at it like that you got to invest in these kids you're putting a lot of money inand those years are so important to to coach these kids mentally and physicallyand by the time they get to first grade they'd [ __ ] great human beings instead of a good really good player buta [ __ ] person and he's on he's on the he's on the custom of [ __ ] up andgetting kicked out of the game because it's been too many but in the last ten years that you know they don't careabout you as a person they just care about what you do on the field so a lota lot of this stuff has onus on the clubs and the club's need to care more about their players and I think they areat that they are they are now because look what happened it affected our bottom dollar and this preseason andwhat we just had it affected the NRL's bottom dollar so that starts to happen and then everybody starts gettingsqueezed the salary cap might might decrease because of what happened you know so unless that's from like this isthe last five five to ten years of educating these kids obviously thecurriculum that they're doing and coming around to the kids it's not [ __ ] working because I like I was in thesystem for years and I and I've seen the guys come around and try and teach it how to act off off you know off the field andall this sort of stuff this is not [ __ ] realistic yeah this is not realistic and obviously the kids aren'tlistening so change it up the NRL need to change it up the ROP I need to come in change it up everybody need to changeup this preseason because we can't have another one like this interesting mate speaking of changed upyou are renowned for putting some words into the origin players this year so all the New South Wales players all thetweet don't look that [ __ ] don't know[ __ ] about the game but oh yeah in their private box and right you like I meanhow do you rate Boyd Corden or a 5 out of 10 he was doing some of the hardest runs and like the Fox was doing some ofthe hardest runs Queensland were beating the [ __ ] out of us it's physical as hell and how do you how do you rate theLatrell was probably the guy that deserved the loss and he had probably eighties worst game which was fairenough but you can't write guys like who played in the middle and just busted their ass the whole time giving like a 5or a 6 because don't think that the players don't read it either and your comment on it and these pricks don't even put their names to it yeah that'swhat I was saying said [ __ ] don't even worry about that all you should worry about is your own teammates in your coach but players watch this [ __ ]everybody watches it everyone looks at their ratings and stuff regardless of the goal don't read papers they read itnow know what's going on and I'm just so I just don't think I just I just hate itand when they just sit there and look you can't bag anyone's plate origin if you hadn't played origins shut up I get it you know yeah I mean it's a differentbeast yeah it's a different piece and when you get the breaks beaten off you're like like they did physically itwas 1814 but [ __ ] it could have been 30 or 40 yeah it should have been we played that bad in Queens then with thatdominant and I was just like goddamn lucky we got through that we we didn't get embarrassed and then we come throughand obviously we changed a few things around I went in the series but I couldn't win either way as close as hell but I just don't likestill I play is getting bagged by Juno's I mean the aged journalist commentator Imean just report on the game you know I think dare you rate someone I can understandif you comment on the game and do all this great one to 70 [ __ ] do you think you are fair call you get that from yourcoach or former players or whatever if you get a former player - don't you dare like write write write write the storiesnow you just write your stories why positive stories are negative stories about it don't write players may juststepping back on players origin money in sport do you think the salary caps correctly worded for this for the playerand further in for the fan that's a tough question but is it does assist youthink it's enough do you think it's is that the question well it's more it's more the question like we play originyour gain say money yeah I think would you believe the Jews you believe in theory and I mean obviously you talked about that's a tough one now with yeahthe way clubs are run do you think that it'll ever be something that like theRugby League Players Association will actually how to come this crew I think we should copy off maybe the blueprintof the the ARU so you get a selective amount of people that get paid from theAI you and then they go to their club side and get paid from that yeah so just say like a Tedesco he gets paid fivehundred from the area from the NRL yep IRL and he gets likes I don't know amillion dollars from the Roosters yep that's fair and he's owned in 1.5 mil you know he's that he's that sort ofplay like kayln poorer all these plays need to be and you could say that only salary cap because the game is what isearning so much money they can afford to pay just say a top 30 and then save theclub's that two or three million dollars on the cap and then it can be spread around evenly and you can even the capup and you won't have a team like the ball or Bulldogs who haven't got a superstar team yet they're well over thecap you know you won't have any many cap problems so I just think like you know all our all our elite players should bewith the big body of ARL or the NRL and they should be coming in with a lot of money and then you could get money fromyou know from your club you know it's five or six hundred and you end up with a million dollars or you know just saywith with origin I don't think they get paid enough in origin cuz I just think the game earns ashitload of money New South Wales rugby league and Queensland Rugby League oh and a lot of money during origin they'rein the millions and I just say you have a look at they don't even earn 2% of the revenue it's not right that's not fairlike I you know it's just like at least if it was 10% of the revenue they'll be all getting one hundred two hundredfifty thousand dollars ago yeah and that's exactly what they deserve because you plan to play a whole series it takes[ __ ] years off your career you have a look at blokes like you say for as elves play three years now starting back rowplaying in there you know clamor all these guys I start there on the decline Boyd corner all these guys it's hard tomaintain especially in the middle especially the way the club football is you know and and the club football needsto be compensated somehow but they can't like I mean I just look at like goingback to the to the club and and and and the origins system I just think theyshould go alright six weeks of that year you are the playing for you playing inNew South Wales or Queensland playing all like just say internationals and just play like a Pacific Cup play thatthrough the four weeks and then like like New Zealand Tonga Samoa and Fiji you know play like a four nations inthat six weeks and get a competition going there you know the Lebanon team versus the younger kids younger kidslike New South Wales were sequential so everybody can sort of it can be involved just over six weeks and then the clubjust needs to have a rest all your club just don't do anything they make it but if you're playing I think that you couldplay in pretty much get your top 25 will be in one of those teams and they madethe Tongan side to being a Samoan side the Fijian side New Guinea side you know all Queensland on your selfless or insome of the junior sides you know so I just think they can work around it and just put you said leave it on theWednesday but like over every 10 days Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday you know like and I can just have no and have noclub football but we've sold our soul because of the CBA and we've put out [ __ ] 26 games which is too much itshould be 22 games and if it was 22 games I think the competition would be a lot better youwouldn't have the dead sort of period like before origin during origin and now everyone sort of start the fire up isn'tit but he had a good [ __ ] couple of weeks before origin was real [ __ ] during Irishman was [ __ ] so there's a couple ofrounds there during origin which shouldn't even be played yeah you know that's when you can cut it down to 22but it's like saying it and then it actually happened happening is just [ __ ] nowhere near that will never doit because we saw it I saw with the CBA and we won too much money for the for the TV rights and that's gonna have tohappen you have to play you 26 games you have to play your origin and everything that's full access to everybody andthat's what they wanted they saw a good name we got the biggest TV deal per capita in sports history so this is agame that's played on the East Coast predominant on the east coast of Australia a little bit of England and you'd little bit of New Zealand do youreckon if you went back to 22 games a year you might the crowds might actually comes welcome back row back that the theamount of intensity in the games would be up I think the game really doesn'tgive a [ __ ] about fans to be honest or they all they care about is eyes on theTV and the eyes on the TV is even down everything's down Origen was down everything so like well obviously we'regoing we're regressing it's not like we can sit on our laurels and yeah the games is raiding through the roofratings down so something needs to happen and do you think it's the 340 codes of a suffering versus extremesport and they need to talk more or you do you think it's still you know Rugby League versus I think so I mean becausewe get on the major sit on the major channels we're on Channel 9 free-to-air we're on through we're on Fox Sports 24/7 you know as a lot of you know AFLare done the same thing they're on you know they're on free-to-air all the time they're on Fox Sports so is Union I mean unions not as dominant but yeah I stillthink it's a 2 to 2 or thrice without an hour over so fo and I just understandthink we should we should be not even comparing it to them should we just we should be growing the game in differentdifferent ways I mean I watch a HEPA ESPN how they do sports and they know how to do it yeah you know the way theythe way they sell the game the way that's promoted and everything like we don't even try you know like theConstitution is yeah we got no competition so now who's trying to battle against this though we're morewe're more reactive than proactive that's the problem with the NRO yeah you know like women's AFL they start up [ __ ]we better start up [ __ ] WN RL it happened real quickly and we get they play six weeks of the air at the end ofthe year you know I mean they get to play an origin game the women's game is growing it's huge but the only reasonwell they've got a professional con is because we because the women's AFL did we couldn't but the women are beingscreamed for the for a competition for the last ten years you know what I mean like what we're more reactive anythinghe sort of happens like the best things you say ray Murtagh he retired he had neck tattoo would it wasn't allowed towork anywhere was on the Telegraph I can't blah blah blah can't work [ __ ] jobs right away because the badpublicity yeah you know I mean like we just react to bad published and then [ __ ] try andthen try and solve it instead of being more proactive you know it says I gotsuch a great great product and we just sit on our laurels we don't give a f---us our rugby league will never die you know it'll never die and it will never die but why don't we try and make itbetter in every single way the marketing everything money place should be gettingmore money I don't give a [ __ ] let's be relative there might be relative to how much the game makes yeah if the gamesmaking nothing then the cap gets reduced but I know the games making something the TV deals huge billion dollars[ __ ] around anymore yeah they're gonna be careful look at cricket cricket was untouchable there for a while andthen went through its period that was 2020 bucket got a bit of fingers yeah Iwas like is a great time for us to sort of expand on the nines I think the nines is a great is great for us it'll reallyI don't know like I think the the Auckland nines was great a couple years ago 2013 14 15 and it sort of went awayfor a bit but now the that'll be that be exciting it'll put bums on seats is that Bankwest they should pack it outevery every weekend I'm not sure of the scheduling you know we're gonna play ourbest side yeah but the Fijians yeah I think the fee Jenny's gonna be good every nation can get nine good playersexactly we can't be beaten really in a 17 on you know seventeen man game butnoise we can get done I mean we're gonna have a great side but New Zealand's gonna have a great site so speedy sosong so samal you know Papua New Guinea is going to be hard to be I think that's a great concept for the game they'reactually trying to go out and go all right well the nines is really entertaining because thirteen asite Ithink if I can tell you well that what play is happening every single play yeah it's all about execution and all you'redoing is you're relying on someone to [ __ ] up on the other side you know it's it's it's very very robotic but that'sjust the way it is and I just think it's time for a change with uh with coachingI think a perfect example with the Titans now I think the Walker brothers are sitting in the wings they've been sitting in the wings for five years andthey've changed the game back there people going oh well they're coachingApes which in there you know they're not even the top eight if switch don't get in our old players [ __ ] East and thatgets seven in our old place from Melbourne you know like and all these all the other clubs who are on top yetIFS which is sort of you know when when it was quite even they won the Kop about three or four years ago but the way thatthey coach is different he's not they're not cut from the Wayne Bennett cloth or not they take a little bit out of eachgive him a crack yato me I understand what's what's to lose you know like they'll go okay well maybe you knowthey're not going to do exactly the same thing in what they do in Queensland cut because it's different but like you'regonna be with better players they're gonna buy into it you're gonna deal with pros every day they're willing to puttheir hand up and train instead of guys I've got a [ __ ] better guys that are the real workers they work and then theycome and train can't put a hundred percent into that but if they got a hold of the Titans or anyone the Broncosyou've got a full roster of 30 people 30 plus people that you have control overyou think they can't change the game yeah like and then like it's up to the setup to the CEOs and Chairman's and stuff like well why don't you just give these guys to go what's the worst thing canhappen they [ __ ] up yep you know one-year deal and they just a one-yeardeal or two you give them a two-year deal at least see what happens obviously not going to come in and get Wayne Bennett money yeah you know like what'swhat's the what's the I don't I don't see the Reese but you know they want to get Kevin Walters and when I get a Justin Holbrook and same same place same[ __ ] yep so make just say you on the US lotto couple hundred million yeah andyou want to come and take over the NRL what would you change put the cap up yep I put a lot of moneyin development development just more more out into the country yeahI've been I've been on the road a fair bit with in New South Wales rugby league and even like with country rugby leaguethere's no money out there a lot of guys are not even playing the game anymore because we just seem to forget aboutthem yep just more development in Newcastle Wollongong all our areas whereit's strong its strong on the Gold Coast but yet the gold goes to girl pretty bad they just gone through a bit of a patchnow put a court could stretch the game or get one in Perth and one in midQueensland okay try and just get rid of a couple in Sydney it's the NRL you knowit's a National Rugby League it's not lucky be popular if you try to get rid of you and Sydney 100 it's never gonnahappen and he's got to relocate that's anything you've got to relocate and then establish a new a new a new club but atthe moment we don't have that we don't have the players to expand if they theonly way we can is if we relocate but I doubt if we go let's just start a wholenew franchise in Perth it's not like the AFL where you get first-round draft picks and you can build a club you'regot to try and get people from New South Wales to come over good luck you know this reserve grades not strongenough and neither coz flag for a whole new club to start and that become thatand that's the product of how where the game is you know and that's development especially clubs got travel - yeah thetravelling but I mean like the gig aim at the moment it's not at its best the products not at its best so I mean Ithink you know the game is such a great product but it's just it's not reallygetting out there that's not it's not it's not on I don't know it's just not please it's not the change of rules acouple little things that have changed in the game fans don't like it yeah fans don't like it you know they don'tlike that he can't fight I'm not condoning him fighting but it would cuta lot of niggling [ __ ] out well he didn't hunt you the [ __ ] head no fighting no this but every time origincomes up what are they put on mate it's it's from the blood see now it's in nowtake a hold sharp that's what differentiates us from rugby union an AFL like we could sit there and sort itout in the first ten minutes and then get along with the game instead of all the needling and [ __ ] you know tomean it's like and that happens in the NRL yeah half facts coming in pushing front rails and [ __ ] off man like thatwas happening in the back end of Mikey was like get away from me I can't punch you in the head because like just say inmid-2000 if you want to actually just impose your will on a person you could now there's none of that in the indiegame you got a guy like Jared worried Hargreaves he's an animal you know he does it still but he toes the line buthe's on the [ __ ] brink of getting suspended every game he would have been just a normal player him and ogre wouldhave been gone [ __ ] mental and each other agent morally and all these guys that will [ __ ] nut jobs you know onthe verge of getting set off every game you don't know what's gonna happen but now is everyone so robotic and every one tackles really well and you're scared toput a shot a decent shoulder charge I'm against shoulder charge to the head but there's nothing better than it can liftthe whole game either a fight or a good decent hit yeah you know and um no guys like you know the towel Malolos and youknow sambar just they're all old school guys that want to beat the [ __ ] out of people Sam Burgess perfect example was[ __ ] animal he just wants to just destroy you but he can't he gets other people coming in and pushing and shovingyou wants to beat the [ __ ] out of you you don't mean like he could see him he's just a [ __ ] caged lion and yougo to these little halfbacks and hookers and pushing him and yeah uh no wonder he goes nuts you know he's a fiery [ __ ]person he's naturally wants to dominate you but it's the game now you can't do that youdon't play by the rules all the time like and it's and it's become so robotic I mean I love the game but I'm like canyou change the rules can you go back on it I don't know this is your 100 million you can do it oh okay your game yeah Iwant to come I'll make come back too somake from from a forty perspective you saying up the dollars look at development first round draft rules yeahyeah I would I'll give them that one player which we could fix the cap again yeah well oneplayer max a max deal yeah you know maybe two players for every team max deal yeah and I'll put a free agencything I wouldn't put this June 30 [ __ ] in I'd go there'd be a bracket between I've give a 14 day thing whereyou can just trade yep there's no of you know that I've got Josh Reynolds I'll pay you will pay 500 you give us 300you just have straight trades yeah like a free agency in basketball it happens like EPL it's like a frenzy it's unrealfor the fans it's just like okay and then then then it takes it out the fans don't really care about the loyaltything yeah they're like [ __ ] we can get shawn johnson here we can get four so if you know just say at the back end of theyear we're you know we just say Canberra or Newcastle you're like okay we'resituated about eighth [ __ ] we need a good right center and maybe a left side back row alright we'll trade a couple ofyoung kids and we'll try and get Frisell and we'll try and get another player Tim laughs oil something like that and thenyou can make a run for the finals and you can you possibly win and because you know you're not going to beat Melbournebecause you haven't got those players or if you look it can be like you know maybe you know like a winger and acenter but because BJ laws been out of the whole time all right well let's just try and see who's unhappy at the Broncosor somewhere and do a straight trade so there should be a good wind over about I can ten days or 14 days where you canjust trade and then and try and make a run to the to the playoffs or to win youknow so I think it makes it exciting for some clubs goddamn I wish we had a had a decent front row you know like just say withthe Bulldogs I like Garvey had a good right a good good halfback then you look at the roosters they've got three[ __ ] half facts you've got Kronk lamb and that other kid don't forget hes name flanagan orwhatever so that's in the next three year you go alright we'll give you slam you know it like and we'll try and takea back role from you and another front row like attack a yahoo or Zane tell Ivana yacht a meal and it can make itmake you you can go ok we can we're sitting 12th we can make it run to the 8 forget about winning it and then you'vegot them bottom the bottom bottom like 6 7 8 come on fact let's just try and get in the top 4 spot because it's soimportant now one or two feet one or two key positions off and they're in othersides so you can start to go shading and then it then then it there's more owners on a manic management CEOs footballmanager coach because you've got to start making decisions yeah and it could cost you and it could [ __ ] you up it'sall it's gonna play for a better culture too because Woodham exactly people you don't have a coach you're not gonna pick exactly you know so I don't want to youknow I don't want to just just say toss in Brazil username is perfect example apparently he's not happy it's in Georgeapparently is going to end up with the Roosters Angus Crichton's had a bit of a down year on seven eight hundredthousand ok Angus we want to get rid of you let's have a straight trade yeah but roosters will like I want tohave have to give more because it resolves probably worth more than Angus so let's just give let's give anotheryoung a young center or a fullback or someone someone else so you got you got a Crichton and then you got somebodyelse so you've got three people just for fazil yeah you know it happens in the NBA you get you get LeBronwhat you just got Anthony Davis they're pretty much the [ __ ] our Lakers site yeah but it happens and it's worth itbecause they're like at Lake is it going to be a ridiculous next year so little things like that can make the game a lotmore exciting and you know the fans are still love it and then and the clubs would love it like it's imagine if youknow that you're 2 or 3 players off fact we could win the compound we can't beat Milton because we've got no we only gota real strike back row we neither we need a worker to balance our pack out we need some bloke who can you know take onSophos Ala Moana and Baron Bromwich you know you can be exciting but you knowgames not willing to change that'll never happen what do you think they'll never mind just as I said they're justthey're not proactive they're just gonna sit and it's not and I've seen it quote don't have to start broke don't fix itthat's the worst quite as a [ __ ] worst quote the world shut up it something's broken let's just wrap thisup with you and the media you got any final words for them like just thanks for all what over the years and stuff yeah I do I mean I've had a love/hatewith them with the media but it makes mostly being good sponsors being good like you guys body size I mean I'vealways been good to me but you know with the media and everything like that I think you know I played the game hardand fair I wasn't an idiot it wasn't a rat bag they they knew who I was as a person and they've always treated mefairly most of them you know when they get to know me but um yeah I think thegame for everything it's given me everything you know I wouldn't be sitting here now if I didn't play rugby league you know I've been blessed toplay rugby league I was good at it and I had fun and yeah once you know it's beenit's been a good ride it was a fair ride I don't think I've done I don't think I don't think anybody has has done it likeI've done it the other beam so and fever would know people would understand thatand you know I know I'm out the other end now and just enjoying enjoying lifeand you know trying to put something back into the game yeah make those people that live in a bubble and don't actually know what you're in see accountand Twitter is what is it Oh what is it instagrams not really Mason 10 andTwitter is mace 21 if you are yeah Twitter's he would Twitter's fun on theweekend you know I always I always talkto fans you know they've got something decent and like yeah I say well I won't argue with you but like just come upwith something decent some uneducated [ __ ] answer or a comment or anything like I'm willing to sit there and talkto you about stuff we can go back and forth back and forth about something yeah but come with it because I'll justeat you up I love it thanks to come in today'spodcast was brought to you by our partners in fit happy and healthy ASN Nutrition warehouse dy discountvitamins fat burners only evelyn fey mister supplement will find a retailer online at body science calm that a youforward slash 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